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Pai, the Peregrine Wayfarer's avatar

Was it "invented" for that? Obviously not.

Is it being "used" for that? I can't immediately say no!

Ali Afroz's avatar

Really appreciate this write up. I think it’s obviously true that AI risk wasn’t invented by the CEOs of the labs. However, while this is not meant to be criticism of you since it’s in fact worth your time to correct a falsehood like this, I do think that it’s not crazy or unreasonable to worry that the CEOs are strategically emphasising this narrative because it implies that their product will be really capable and impressive, and they might be able to achieve super intelligence. I don’t mean that they would have picked this exact thing to amplify if they had their pic of things that could be prominent in the discourse, but given the discourse. They in fact are working with. It does seem like one of those things that is in fact in their interest to talk up to a point. This is also the fact that it’s obviously in their interest to talk up the possibility of future super intelligence, and once you do that, it’s kind of hard for them to completely avoid all talk of risk, even if they would have preferred the super intelligence narrative without any risk whatsoever. It’s notable that all the leaders of the three big labs appear to be at least a little into the AI risk discourse. All the part of that is probably selection effects because if you think AI will be a really big deal, you’re obviously more likely to found a company around it, but still it’s unusual for people to believe stuff that’s really inconvenient for their pocket book, so it does imply that it’s not as inconvenient as you might think at first glance. Of course, the AI safety talk going too far and resulting in a pause or something like it would be really bad for these people, but right now that looks like a remote possibility and also an idea gaining a life of its own, especially when it began with a life of its own does not disprove the possibility that some actors are strategically hyping up the idea because it’s convenient for them in the short term. Obviously, this doesn’t actually disprove anything and idea can be both true and strategically useful for the CEOs to talk up. I just think that AI risk is a really convenient topic for them to talk about in some ways because it doesn’t come across as obviously self-serving, but also necessarily implies that AI a will be really big thing well worth all the investment. It’s getting if it works out and likely more. I think if talking about AI is cause a pure negative for the industry, you would expect none of the CEOs or at least only a small fraction to talk about it and most of them to adopt a much more dismissive attitude. Although of course that could also be because they’re trying to attract talent that is, in fact concerned about AI safety or because they know enough about the technology that they are genuinely concerned to some extent and motivated reasoning isn’t strong enough to talk them out of it. None of this contradicts you post to be clear. It’s just an important caveat that I think is worth acknowledging, even though your post is in fact, quite excellent and necessary corrective for the more extreme formulations of this view.

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